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Thursday 27 January 2005 1.55pm
Thats good it looks like common sence my win the day if the Thameslink is routed through the elephant and castle.

as the new inquiry must conclude

acording to todays Southwark news

Edited 1 times. Last edit at 27 January 2005 2.08pm by mickysalt.
Thursday 27 January 2005 2.27pm
Where do the Southwark News reckon to have got the story from?
Thursday 27 January 2005 2.45pm


Saturday 29 January 2005 3.15pm
Anyone know why the E&C route was rejected first time round ?
Saturday 29 January 2005 6.00pm
QUick someone explain to me where this link is going...from where to where and what was the first suggestion????
Saturday 29 January 2005 6.07pm
If you've never heard of Thameslink 2000, try for maps etc.

See also previous references on this site

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Saturday 29 January 2005 7.28pm
I scanned some of network rails visualizations

Its propaganda really as it doesn't show the impact on Green Dragon court or Borough Market

Saturday 29 January 2005 9.32pm
martinr Wrote:
> Anyone know why the E&C route was rejected first time round ?

Not so much rejected, as not seriously considered.

Network Rail and their predecessors at Railtrack reckoned that more passengers would want to connect at London Bridge (Jubilee, Northern, overground services to SE London) than at Blackfriars and E&C stations combined.

The ODPM forced Network Rail to hastily put together some engineering drawings on the E&C alternative at the time of the public inquiry. Lambeth Council was an objector at the inquiry because the extra services will promote long distance commuter services from the coast over Thameslink Metro services serving the southern parts of Lambeth. The Council went very quiet when Railtrack's drawings showed construction of a massive new rail "diveunder" between leafy Tulse Hill and HErne Hill through people's back gardens if the E&C option went ahead.

Thursday 3 February 2005 2.07pm
I new it borough market and southwark cathedral are desperate
for Thames link to go ahead

there alternative design (IN TODAYS SOUTHWARK NWES)would be all right if the borough
market area was lott bigger and could absorb it

as it is it is totally unsuitable.

and the whole route through Borough market is unnecessary

Thursday 3 February 2005 3.56pm
So, what alternative do you propose, Micky?

As far as I understand, the rail lines into and out of London Bridge are extremely congested, which creates a dreadful ripple effect of congestion throughout the SE-London rail network. What is to be done about this?

On the one hand, this area of London has benefitted hugely from the combination of investment and speculation of further investment. On the other hand, this improvement could be curtailed at a sweep if infrastructural problems are not addressed.

Simply preserving the area around Borough Market as a living museum is not an option; sooner or later the money will flow back out of the area and we'll be left with a degenerating slum.
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