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Thursday 8 May 2003 10.38pm
It seems that a little bit of local history on the internet (and local internet history) is in danger of disappearance.

All the pages of have been showing " Page Cannot be diplayed" messages for the last month or so.

These used to hold a century by century chronology of Bermondsey history - as well as bits on Cyprus and coffee!

For the time being you can get at cached versions via Google,
but I suspect this won't last for long.

Anyone know anything about Robert Brook who used to run the site? I don't want to breach his copyright/otherwise nark him by posting the data elsewhere to prevent its being lost into the www ether. Or has the site closed down because all this data was breaching someone else's intellectual property rights?

I've no idea whether Robert would want us to preserve his efforts for posterity, as he was once involved with the Wiki Wiki web which seemed to support the view "Zen finds beauty in the imperfect and ephemeral."

Previous thread title"Whatever happended to Thoupos Brook?"
Edited 10 May to "Bermondsey History in Peril" to see if new subject line attracted any more interest.
It did - thread title amended 11 May

Post edited (11 May 03 13:04)
Saturday 10 May 2003 10.11am
A sneaky post to bring this back up the list now I've changed the thread title
Saturday 10 May 2003 3.41pm
I never realised you cared!

Saturday 10 May 2003 11.41pm
Dear Robert

Your web site is what the Internet is all about.

It may be as ugly as sin but it is 100% content.

I hope you get thrashed by dusty academics about minute lapses in your historical precision, and taking your beatings like a good boy, you continue to refine your historical record to the point where it becomes definitive.

Please tell us more about Dr Salter.

Start a monthly column on london-se1 of reminiscence about this fine place and fine people who made it.

I want your babies.


Sunday 11 May 2003 10.15am
An extremely useful site if you are looking for old webpages that are no longer cached on google, or generally available is:

you simply type in the old web page, and then you can choose the year (or the month) that you want to view the page. Its not completely comprehensive, but it has an awful lot of old websites before they got updated. Its particularly interesting to see how some local government website news stories get re-written!
Sunday 11 May 2003 12.03pm
Many thanks to Robert for reviving the timeline - and for laying out the dosh for a new sitename.

Thanks to MM about the tip re

James (the Editor), could you include a link to Robert's new site on the History and Heritage page - at your leisure. It deserves some extra visitors to reward his efforts.

Sunday 11 May 2003 12.05pm
Will certainly add a link in due course.

We already link to Robert's old site from our (desperately in need of a re-write) Bermondsey page in the Areas section

Sunday 11 May 2003 6.50pm
I'm afraid someone else has already had my baby:

And, yes, this is SE1 related: his second name is "Tooley".
Monday 17 October 2005 1.01pm
Does anyone know if the Thoupos Brook/ Bermondsey History site still exists? And if so, where?

Monday 17 October 2005 1.11pm
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